Crypto: The Game Companion Podcast, Day 8: The Merge, Hit Lists, Plus we're joined by 3LAU and special comment from The Foundation

[00:00] We're Boys Club, and you're listening to the official Crypto the Game companion podcast, brought to you by Lens. For 10 days only, we'll be hitting on the biggest moments, juiciest gossip, and hottest takes from season two, Anon Island. Smash the subscribe. I don't know. It doesn't feel right. Perfect. No notes. Okay. Welcome to day eight, night eight of Crypto the Game. For folks who are new here, and we understand there's a lot of people who are coming in [00:30] are not playing the game. So if that's you, Crypto the Game is a massive internet survivor game. [00:37] where everyone buys in to play the game and then votes each other out over a series of days, across a series of challenges, and the last person standing wins the pot. The pot is at 80 ETH. [00:50] So on day eight today, 123 people were eliminated in tonight's vote. Tough vote. Tough vote. 116 lucky souls are still standing. I'd say today's theme is [01:08] quote, hit lists. That was all about the hit lists tonight. Yes. Yes. And yeah, just kind of felt like [01:16] at the end of the Titanic when [01:18] It just goes to chaos. Chaos. And I will say, there was no challenge today. The challenge was, can you create the group chats? Can you fight for yourself? Can you make a hit list and survive? And...

[01:33] I will say my telegram reflects that manic, [01:36] manic behavior like you made the joke at one point i was like it's it's funny but it's funny because it's true it's like it's it's time to start like doing some wellness checks with some people for real [01:49] Okay, so today Crypt of the Game shifted from a team game to an individual game. And as we were talking about the chaos ensued alliances. [02:00] were formed voting blocks were attempted spinning up out of control all over the place there were three immunity challenges that i believe 17 people won immunity tonight we're going to have on blau on the podcast tonight and dig into some gossip but first some love for our sponsors man we love lens we love lens we love lens we really do i was at dinner with my husband tonight and he was like [02:30] listening to the podcast and he was like i know it's a protocol but and i was like wow [02:34] Here it is. Brand marketing here at work. Did he know that he can mint his lens profile on lens. He should try and get like at [02:42] At Matt. At Matt? Yeah, that's really good. But seriously, love Lens. So much fun has been going down in Lens over the course of Crypto the Game. We've been posting there. Crypto the Game has been posting. I'd say that tonight the theme has sort of shifted on Lens. It's a lot of sob stories. A lot of I've been hit. I've taken one. I'm going down. So really good stuff. You can get to Lens on Lens.xyz. You can also check out Orb. It's a great app for mobile. And then Hey.xyz is how I live.

[03:11] access lens on desktop. So we're having fun over there. You can follow us at boys club. You can follow Dina at Dina and you can follow myself at Natasha. [03:21] Okay, on with the show. [03:27] - You go by Blau, right? [03:29] You can call me Justin. Justin. My DJ name is Blau with the three and [03:34] Okay. Yeah, we'll say three loud, but it is it is it is Blau. It was an SEO. [03:39] attempts when I was in college and never expected to work out music. So I'm Dina. Nice to meet you. Were we on the same team? I think maybe I kind of remember at one point seeing that video set up. So maybe we were on a Google Hangout or something. Oh, yes, we were. We were doing vote strategy. Super excited to have you on the pod. Blau or Justin will be calling you this evening. You are a DJ. Also [04:05] sound designer extraordinaire for crypto the game you've all even [04:10] stressing us out for the rest of the week. Yeah, I would say so. Did you, I mean, it's supposed to be you, the like breath, [04:18] when you survive another night. [04:20] No. [04:22] That's all Tyler and one of their other friends. I just kind of made the main theme song that's been like repurposed, but I did not make any of the video game music for any of the games. Just the main theme song. Which we use in this podcast. Yes. Amazing. So thank you so much. Sick. So let's start with the basics. Are you in? Are you out? Are you...

[04:44] playing i am out i sort of like missed today and i was inactive [04:48] for a day because I had other stuff going on. No, no other stuff. Royal. And, you know, none of us have other stuff going on. We just see all day. But then I got I actually put up a score for the block game. [05:02] But it was so long, the pop one. Yeah. [05:06] It just took so long and eventually, there's only like two hours left, I was like, there's no way I'm gonna finish this in two hours and get a high score. - Yeah. - And then I kind of on the telegram, I was like, "Guys, if you wanna eliminate me, I won't be mad, "I feel bad," and so I got eliminated. - Oh, wow, you volunteered as tribute. - I swear to volunteered 'cause I was like, "Hey, I know I got a score up, I'm not a zero." [05:28] But then there were people with zero scores that got in and I got out. So that's the name of the game. It was not a merit-based vote. I had a really good score. I was in the mid-300s. Well, it was really good. Yeah, it was really good. It was really good. So... [05:43] Who knows? [05:44] Who knows? I'm not going to ask you if you're playing with any Anons, but... [05:49] I am suspecting it. [05:50] I may have been, but they've all been eliminated. I tried because there was a point in the secondary where things got cheaper and I was like, oh, let's see what happens with this. [06:01] totally unmarked wallet [06:03] Let's see if we can do something. But I actually got a good score with an Anon account. [06:08] in the, um... [06:10] the worm wormhole okay and i thought i'd be safe and then i like

[06:14] uh got hit you know so the logic is anybody's game so you played season one what do you like about the format you clearly are in on crypto the game i'd love to hear yeah just what you love about the game and what made you play again [06:29] Yeah, I think so. Dylan and I, one of the founders, go back to middle school together. Oh, wow. We've known each other for 20 years, and Crypto sort of reconnected us after I moved out west when I was 13 years old. So we were friends when I was like... [06:43] between the ages of nine and 13. And he originally told me about season one [06:47] I thought the design was so brilliant for season one and season two. I thought they really upped the game with the idea of the marketplace. [06:54] And now, you know, the jury voting positions. And it's going to be some things that get really interesting towards the end, like buying up votes. I feel like people will do. And it'll be really interesting to see. But what got me into it in the first place was just, you know, a lot of crypto is already a game. Why not make it a real game? [07:12] And not an arcade type video game, more of a social-- [07:15] survivor type game. And I just, I'm really amazed by the work that the team has done [07:20] The attention to detail is pretty spectacular, and it's just net fun, even when you lose. [07:25] Yeah. What a wholesome origin story with you and Dylan. I love that. We're getting into the final days here. [07:33] It's coming down to the wire. [07:35] What type of person do you think could [07:38] Go all the way. Like, do you think that we're going to see a doxed person who we know and love and are able to rally behind? Do you think an Anon could do it?

[07:47] What's your speculation? [07:49] I have, okay, so maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I think someone's going to work... [07:55] the jury positions towards the end. [07:57] and maybe negotiate. [08:00] to have someone win and split the pot. That's like my thesis. Someone's going to go buy up as many votes as they can, [08:06] and try to rig the final. [08:09] Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I could totally see it happening. So we'll see. [08:13] I could totally see it, too. I think also you get to a certain point where, let's say, you know, you have 50, 60, you have a strong [08:21] jury voting block and then all you have to do is convince [08:26] one of the weaker players who's still in the game by the last day to either buy their nft for a certain amount or as you said split the pot and there's going to be a lot of people who are like totally this person invested so much into buying all these jury votes all i have to do is say yes to them and have a higher chance of winning so i i will be surprised if there's not [08:45] some NFT strategy component. I just think it's impossible for that not to happen. [08:50] I totally agree. And if it was me in the top 10, [08:54] I wouldn't want to risk not winning, and I would basically... [08:58] Like I had this idea. [09:00] that if I ever made it to the end, I would do this where I would just like, [09:03] post a wallet with the total winnings in it and be like, guys, let's split this. [09:08] Please vote for me, I swear. And then like, maybe there's enough social pressure on me to actually fulfill that. [09:13] Maybe people would trust me to fulfill it right. [09:15] Thought about even, like, getting a multi-sig wallet set up to, like, unlock...

[09:19] different allocations between everyone. Like, you know, you could do a lot of really interesting things. But when it gets to that final, that final count, [09:26] You know, everybody's a winner if everybody wins because we started with 800 people, right? And so, I wouldn't be surprised if someone really clever... [09:33] comes up with something like that too. You know, that's the beauty of the game being, [09:36] built on crypto is these things can happen permissionlessly without the [09:40] without Dylan and the CTG team even really knowing what's going to happen. [09:44] Totally. Okay, I want to talk to you about the music. Like what what headspace did you get in as you were creating the music for the season? Like what did you need to channel in order to to get to where we got to? [09:56] It's actually a great story. Tyler on the CTG team had reached out in a group chat and was like, yo, would you be down to do this? And I kind of said to the guys, I was like, I don't really have time to make something completely custom. [10:08] But I do have a lot of ideas. Like, you know, every musician has tons of unfinished ideas that we could like maybe tweak a little bit to get it to the point where you're happy for the game. [10:17] And I had sent them 11 ideas. And to be honest, I don't think they liked it. They thought they were all like too far in one direction. [10:24] was like, actually, here's some feedback on exactly what we want. [10:28] And he was very specific. And I was like... [10:30] Actually, there's this new thing that I just made yesterday that might work for this because it fits your description. I sent him, he's like, yes, this is it. And so... [10:39] You know, between 9:00 and 1:00 AM, I'll make random ideas that might never see the light of day. This one happens to be one of my favorites. And I think the version that everyone's heard so far isn't the actual final version of the track. I think they might do that later on in the game. You know how it's evolved into different things. The first version of the song was just the reverb and the chords like for the for the entry.

[10:57] But yeah, at some point I might actually release it. What I did was I actually got all the parts of the song and separated it. [11:03] so the CGD team could like use it however they wanted. Oh, nice. Um, [11:07] Because at the end of the day, they're the game designers. And to make one song exactly as they want would be difficult. And that's what's fun about music is just exported 30 different sounds in the exact order. And then they got to play with them and do whatever they needed. So that's why there's lots of different versions of the song. I love it. That's awesome. OK, are you going to play season three? Yeah. [11:26] Oh, definitely. A hundred. Okay, great. It's just fun. Like, it's not, I think... [11:32] This season definitely felt... [11:34] I mean, last season was a time commitment. [11:36] This season, [11:37] maybe felt a little bit like more of a time commitment, but [11:40] It doesn't change the amount of fun [11:42] that it is like I think the only reason why I I wasn't like I missed a day was because there was like really intense work stuff happening which I feel like everyone who plays has intense stuff working at work happening right but then there's always going to be that select group of players that are that can actually just like focus completely yeah I think those people inevitably have a better chance but I'm definitely in season three without a doubt nice yeah I feel like my experience for both seasons have been that there is one or two people on the teams that I'm on that [12:09] are in between jobs are just about to get their next gig or just left their recent gig and they're like [12:15] all the way in and i'm like i do think that that's what's required to win in the end is like you're you're seeing this as basically like i'm gonna for two weeks it's gonna be my full-time job and uh we'll see if that pans out this this time around but last time i was definitely like this person is fully fully committed yeah and i think also because it's a crypto game i think

[12:35] People who participate aren't always expecting to actually win, but they just want to be involved and have proof. [12:42] of course, that they participated early on. And who knows what that materializes into. But I think that's another incentive for people. Like, that's why I'll keep playing forever, not just to support the guys... [12:51] But it's fun and you never know. [12:53] CTG might become like [12:56] a new game platform for that. Anyone can build other games on top of like, who knows, right? Like anything can happen. And I think in general, it's still the most fun I've had in crypto in a really long time. [13:06] I agree. Okay, Justin, Blau, thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you in season three. [13:13] So nice to see you in season three and at the final vote, I guess. Take care. Thanks. Thanks, everyone. [13:24] The foundation? The foundation surfaced... [13:28] today [13:29] in the afternoon. It's a Twitter account, right? [13:33] It's actually what they spun off a website. [13:35] Oh, that's what it was. Let me get you the link here. So the foundation website says, Crypto the Game is about to fall into two days of chaos. If you do not want to leave your fate up to chance, we must work together to restore civility. All are welcome. Together we will survive. They wanted to collect 150 voters and put three votes on 50 different targets. So there's a lot of math. [13:57] That was happening today. A lot of people. [13:59] of math because we knew that a great deal of people would have to go home tonight and so then it became all about okay

[14:07] How are we going to create scenarios where we're not in a one- [14:12] vote which is what happened which is what happened which is what happened but basically i'd say the [14:20] Everyone's like I need to create a voting block or I need to be in a voting block. [14:24] and the thinking was if you created a powerful enough voting block you'd be able to [14:30] create a list that folks could vote on and you could hand out your instruction and then you'd create a scenario where people were getting voted off with like two or three votes and not with just one vote because that was [14:41] what everyone was afraid of because that's basically like you just have one person who's kind of pissed off at you [14:45] Or just someone who votes for you because they don't know who to vote for. [14:49] Totally. Just a random... [14:51] Which is what I feel like a lot of what happened tonight based on the calls I was on. [14:55] I sat in on some calls and the vibe was, who should I vote for? Can someone give me a name? Can someone give me a number? And just calling out numbers. Just people being like, I don't know, just do a random person. And it's like, what? Isn't the whole point of being on a call? Yeah, totally. So a friend of the pod, I guess I'll just say David Phelps, who was on last night, he, I suppose, stepped up to the plate and created, tried to create one of these voting blocks.

[15:25] point, I actually think there's like a theory about this where it's like you get to a certain size of humans collected into a group. And if it's a certain size, I actually think it might be 150 people. [15:36] the trust starts to break down. And it's too big for you to feel like you're responsible to the group. And I fear that's what happened with David's chat, which was called Real People. He was trying to accumulate a bunch of people who were doxed and playing as themselves. And I really, really respect the effort. Unfortunately, he did go out tonight. He fell tonight. I will say you sent me a Miro board. [16:03] that triangulated every person in this 150 person chat. [16:09] where they originated... [16:11] And who was the original invitee? So basically, it's like a web... [16:17] of people's names and who they level back up to. So that you could basically see like, okay, who's got their own voting block? [16:27] who can be trusted, who can be not trusted. The amount of admin that people are willing to put into this game is absolutely insane. Miro boards, Figma links, Google Sheets, Google Word docs, Telegrams. Like people really working really hard. And I'm like... [16:44] $250,000 is a lot of money. [16:47] Also, there's some jobs that pay you that much. And people are working so much harder than they do at their jobs. [16:53] Bye. [16:54] It's wild. It's wild. Oh, man. It's so wild. So, yeah, it was kind of warring voting blocks, warring hit lists. The foundation, I believe, was trying to spin up their own... I don't know how successful...

[17:08] They were. I don't know if David would call the real people [17:13] group chat successful or not. So we're going to have the foundation on in a moment to talk about [17:19] Their strategy. [17:24] Hey guys, can you hear me okay? Oh! Great job with the voice manipulator. [17:34] Yeah, you know, we turn on out of our identity being reviewed. Totally. I mean, not me. I'm on the internet every day with my whole face and basically a dress at this point. So I can't relate. But I understand that that's the case for a lot of people. Okay, should I call you the foundation? [17:49] You can call me whatever you like. - Okay. - Okay. Okay. So I'll tell you my experience with the Foundation is that I was just going about my day, [17:58] and in a couple of these telegram chats and then all of a sudden the foundation pops up [18:02] as this entity... [18:04] with a website that was attempting some sort of voting block. So what's going on? What's going on here? Well, when you look at the game theory of the vote we are today, we can safely predict that 50 people or 75 people or 100 people are going home. [18:20] And if anyone over 79 people were going home, then everyone was screwed. Everyone with waterbell would be sent home. [18:27] If it was under that, you could safely put two votes. [18:30] on 75 people or 3 votes on 50 people. [18:35] And just those individuals would go home and everyone who got one vote would be safe.

[18:40] And, no one was taking initiative to do that. [18:43] So the foundation was born to start the movement. [18:46] He'd try to rally the voting bloc to pull that off. [18:49] Do you feel you were successful? [18:52] - No. [18:55] I mean, let's be real, a lot of one votes went home tonight. - I love an honest broker. Okay, so are you Wilbert? [19:02] No, I did all work Wilbert. Wilbert's a grifter. Wilbert's fake. We all like Wilbert here. [19:07] This isn't some schtick to try to fit in or get vouchers. It simply was born out of necessity. [19:16] Bye. [19:17] You don't want to go home tonight. [19:19] So, I needed. [19:21] 35 people. [19:23] to go home, they'll award me and each have two votes on them. And somebody needed to coordinate that. Yeah. And everyone who coordinates goes home. This is born out of a necessity. [19:32] to pull off an almost impossible mission. Oh, interesting thing that you said there, that everyone who coordinates goes home. I think that that's definitely the case of what we saw. So did you get voted off this evening? [19:43] I cannot answer that. Okay. [19:46] Are you still in the game? I don't remember what happened. [19:51] I may be. Okay. So are you going to try again tomorrow? [19:55] If people want to coordinate tomorrow, I will be there. [19:59] What I'm getting from talking to you is actually different from sort of the lore that was around you today, which was much more... [20:05] sinister. The game theory that you laid out just now was actually about

[20:10] Saving more people [20:12] So are you on the side of justice or are you on the side of evil? I just want to like kind of understand where we're at. [20:19] Yeah, we're totally good out here. You know, there's like people like Wilbur and then these cabals that pop up. [20:26] All of those, all bad guys, all evil, we're on the side of the good, we're all about, hey. [20:31] We're gonna bring people together. [20:33] We're going to coordinate this. [20:35] Make a solid vote to save the maximum amount of wars possible, and anyone who contributes will be saved. [20:41] That's our mission. [20:44] Great. I love that, Michelle. Are you... [20:47] rooting for an Anon winner in the end. There was another group working together, the chat, the real people chat. I'm curious what you think about that. If you have any preference on who the final winner is, obviously I'm sure you hope it's yourself, but I'm curious if you have a preference on anonymous versus doxxed winner. [21:06] in the end. Yeah, I feel like I have a unique perspective, especially tonight. I was in every single chart. [21:13] I was even in a voice call with you at one point. I was all over the place. I was in the real people chat. I actually helped start the real people chat with David just as a way to get more people as numbers. [21:24] And so I think I really got a C vote to the best and worst of people and how they play. And I think to win this game you have to craft the narrative. [21:34] And I think that's really hard to do as an anon. [21:37] And I think that's going to need to be someone who

[21:41] had that fine line of mating moves? [21:44] while still not being big enough to get voted out tonight or tomorrow. [21:48] You're talking about narratives. I think you're right. I think it's going to take a strong narrative to win it to go all the way. If you win the prize pool. [21:56] What are your intentions? [21:58] That's a great question. I'll tell you one thing I will not do. I will not be sweating the pot with anyone. I'm very anti-pot sweating. I will not try to do some. [22:07] shoot Dao and split the money or put it into a meme token. I think whoever gets the end and wins, deserves to win and spend the money how they wish. [22:15] And so people are asking me when I started the foundation today. [22:19] hey will you use this money and split it among foundation members and i said absolutely not the foundation is simply we're gonna get through tonight we're gonna get you tomorrow night take the maximum logs [22:32] Let us all battle out in the air until we the best person would. [22:35] But I will say that I don't think... [22:37] I think there'll be a big movement that I will be glad to help lead to not let a Jerry Whale win. I think we can't let someone buy up their votes and win. I think we can't let an Anon win because who knows what they did the whole time and he would have claimed to be that person. [22:51] Alan needs to be someone that was in the game, play the game, and ultimately at the end deserves to win the game. And so if that's me, [22:59] And I will take that $250,000 and I will go buy a Cybertruck. [23:04] nice okay uh just a quick uh question from the chat here were you intentionally targeting women

[23:13] Do you see me? [23:15] Absolutely not actually most of the people that [23:18] who were working with me, war woman. [23:20] His mother's a woman. [23:23] I would not be here without my mother. So I would not target the woman. Okay. Well, you heard it here from the foundation themselves. Thank you so much for coming on and we'll see you at the jury vote. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. And remember, if you want to save humanity, cue into foundation. There it is. Bye. [23:49] - Post of the day. [23:51] post of the day. [23:52] Real personal favorite here. Dylan Averscato, the man, the myth, the legend posted on Orb who King Wilbert thinks he is versus who he actually is. And it's a photo of Tony Soprano. And then the second photo is a LinkedIn profile of a man named Tony Soprano. For folks who don't know, there was a lot of lore around Wilbert today, a alleged cabal leader who was sending [24:22] on Wilbert's kill lists. TBD, if... [24:26] They actually exist or were powerful, but that's kind of the... That's Wilbert. That's Wilbert. I have another funny Wilbert one on orb. Must underscore B underscore Ash. And... [24:40] Again, same format, Wilbert IRL this week. [24:43] who you call in King Anon. And it's that famous photo of a man on a bicycle with maybe 100, or not 100, but 50 cell phones, all playing something. So very funny. I love this photo. This is a classic photo, classic meme photo. Classic meme.

[25:03] Great, great job here. So there's only two likes on this. So if you're on Orb, go give this a like because it's a really good one. So we need to show some love to this individual must be Ash. [25:14] So only three pod episodes left after this and you can. Ma'am. That means three more opportunities to be featured on post of the day. So. [25:25] If you have one that you've been waiting to post and it's like up your sleeve, [25:29] Now's the time. Now's the time. [25:31] Get it out and tag us so that we can see it and it might just make it onto the show. See you tomorrow.